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LAW & ORDER: ORGANIZED CRIME: Rick Gonzalez Shares Insight into the Tense ‘Red, White, Black, & Blue’ Interrogation

May 16, 2025 by  

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LAW & ORDER: ORGANIZED CRIME — “Red, White, Black, & Blue” Episode 506 — Pictured: Rick Gonzalez as Det. Bobby Reyes — (Photo by: Scott Gries/PEACOCK)

[Warning: This post contains spoilers for the Thursday, May 15 episode of LAW & ORDER: ORGANIZED CRIME.]

The OCCB task force was put in a difficult position on the Thursday, May 15 episode, “Red, White, Black, & Blue,” as Stabler (Christopher Meloni) reunited with old friend Detective Tim McKenna (Jason Patric) as they tried to catch the cartel leader, Miguel Olivas (Emilio Rivera), who was responsible for the death of an assistant DA and four cops. (One of the dead cops worked with Stabler and McKenna decades earlier.)

And with Olivas still in the wind, McKenna insisted to Reyes (Rick Gonzalez) that Olivas’ girlfriend, Lucero (Kiara Liz)—whom the cops had in custody—was as dirty as Olivas is. Determined to get answers, McKenna spoke privately to Stabler to propose a solution to their stalemate.

“What’s your appetite for getting a little creative here?” McKenna asked.

“Like?” Stabler asked cautiously.

“Like we used to,” McKenna replied.

When Stabler asked what his plan was, McKenna was vague. “Bring in the girlfriend,” McKenna requested. “I’m gonna make a call.”

Stabler was conflicted, but brought Lucero into OCCB’s interrogation, where he and Reyes questioned her. When Stabler tried getting information from her, Lucero flipped and tried appealing to Reyes, with whom she had bonded with during an earlier interview.

“The thing is, we’re finding it hard to believe that you had nothing to do with this,” Reyes said.

Lucero was bewildered by that, wondering if they thought she shot the police officers or drove the getaway car which allowed Olivas to escape. But Stabler pointed out Olivas would have known the police would be there if he flipped on his cartel…and he was only going to flip because the police had Lucero.

“Are you suggesting I willingly put myself in this situation?” she asked.

“Did you?” he volleyed back.

But then McKenna entered the interrogation. “You know me?” he asked. “I hear you want to see your kid.”

“Yes,” she replied.

McKenna strolled over to her and produced his phone—which had photos of her son and her parents, in the custody of law enforcement. 

A horrified Lucero called McKenna by his nickname: The Killer Cop. (Which visibly surprised Stabler.)

“Oh, you know me,” McKenna nonchalantly replied. He said he still had friends in Mexico, and Lucero’s answers would determine if he called in favors to have her son and parents taken somewhere she’ll never find them.

Lucero got emotional as she told Reyes that McKenna was the reason Olivas’ first family was killed. But before McKenna could escalate his threats, Bell (Danielle Moné Truitt) pulled him and Stabler from the interrogation. 

“First of all, working with Jason was incredible,” Gonzalez tells Give Me My Remote in the video below of filming the tense scene. “He’s such an incredible actor. It was important that we allowed him to sort of infect the energy of our home base, our office. And he has his way of doing work. We have our way. And we’re also learning what he’s bringing to the table. We end up finding out what he did in Mexico. And we’re all like, ‘What the f—?’ So it’s just kind of like letting that play out and just [be] like, ‘Who is this guy? What is he really about?’”

Given Reyes’ time undercover and his own network of CIs, Gonzalez was also cautious about how he played the scene. “I also wanted to be careful…I know that Reyes has to have people that are questionable, as well, in his life,” he notes. “So it’s important to realize, ‘Okay, I get it. But, still, who are you? Because I don’t like what I’m hearing.’”



Finding and playing with the correct tension in the three-minute sequence was something the actors worked to find with director Eriq La Salle.

“Working with Eriq La Salle on this was awesome,” Gonzalez gushes. “He was able to allow us to play, and to figure out the energy of the scene. And we found it kind of easily, in a way, because Jason is such a good actor and he sort of spearheaded this energy in the room, in terms of what the characters were feeling. Like, this guy [is] coming in and wanting to push Stabler into a lane of, like, ‘We need to do it this way.’ So, yeah, it was fun.”

And, Gonzalez teases, “It won’t be the only interaction McKenna and Reyes have this season.”

Though Reyes was able to get multiple wins in the hour—Lucero gave him information about Olivas’ travel plans after the botched interrogation, and Reyes’ hunch about another safe house was correct—Gonzalez acknowledges that the detective is still struggling.

“It’d be nice to explore how Reyes is dealing with a lot of the loss that he’s had the last few years, and what that looks like at home,” he says. “He’s so good at his job, and yet he’s dealt with so much loss. So…it’s almost like he has the Mamba Mentality, the Kobe Bryant thing, because it’s like chaos is happening, and they really dive in and work hard. We see that when he’s able to really get the information out of Miguel’s girlfriend. He understands how to befriend her, he understands, culturally, what she means, and how to connect with her, culturally. He’s perceptive enough to understand that they are really angry with her boyfriend for what he did, and so, they’re like wolves on top of her [when they’re trying to get information]. And he just knows how to go in a different direction.”

“So it’s just interesting to see how Reyes can just sort of elevate himself of everything, regardless of the loss that he’s having in his life,” he continues. “So, I’m pretty sure it has to be taking a toll on him, you know? [He’s] working these cases and not having anything to take the edge off.”

LAW & ORDER: ORGANIZED CRIME, Thursdays, Peacock.

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