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CASTLE: Andrew Marlowe on Castle and Beckett Heading to the Hamptons, Episode 100, and More

October 15, 2012 by  

In tonight’s brand new episode of CASTLE, the ruggedly handsome writer takes Beckett out to the Hamptons for a little R&R. Unfortunately for them, the relaxation comes to a premature stop when the duo get mixed up in a case.

To get a little tease of what’s to come, I talked with CASTLE creator Andrew Marlowe about tonight’s hour, “Murder, He Wrote,” the upcoming 100th episode, the documentary episode, and more…

How has Castle and Beckett being together impacted how you’re able to work cases into the show? Tonight’s episode takes place in the Hamptons, for instance…
Andrew Marlowe: Yes, the episode in the Hamptons, that should be fun. A lot of really good stuff in that. That episode is called “Murder, He Wrote,” and the reason it’s called that is because it’s a little nod to MURDER SHE WROTE. They go out to have a nice relaxing vacation in the Hamptons and a case stumbles into their backyard, literally, when they’re about to take a little night swim in the pool. Somebody staggers up, having just been shot, and collapses in the pool. And in MURDER SHE WROTE, the cases were always coming to her. That’s something that hasn’t really happened in CASTLE in our first 85 episodes, but when they’re out in the Hamptons…they land smack dab in the middle of a case when they’re just trying to get away for the weekend and wild hijinks ensue. And by the way, they need some help from New York to solve the case, but nobody from the precinct knows they’re together, so they have to hide that.

That’s a bit troublesome since that means they’ll be lying to cops. Obviously, the New York cops are their coworkers, but it’s not a good start.
AM: That’s right. It’s fun.

What has been the biggest surprise for the writers in putting these two together as a couple?
AM: I don’t know that we’ve been surprised yet. There are struggles that we knew about. We want to keep the banter between them.  We want to keep the tension between them. That’s part of the challenge — to not make everything hunky-dory all the time and to make them real. Keep them real and organic and grounded.

And will the potential reaction from their coworkers help to keep that tension there? We’ve seen them take extreme lengths to keep their relationship quiet…
AM: I think we’ll have a couple good bites at that coming up.

Given your penchant for honoring past shows, have you ever given thought to doing something to pay homage to MOONLIGHTING, given that the curse was “haunting” your show?
AM: Haven’t we been tackling MOONLIGHTING for the past 85 episodes? [Laughs]

Completely. But I wasn’t sure if you ever thought about doing something along the lines of your X-FILES homage a couple years back.
AM: Before we got them together, we were flirting with an episode where they crossed paths with a MOONLIGHTING-type couple who were bitching and complaining that once they got together it was never the same. But we decided to not move forward with that idea because we thought it was too inside baseball. We also knew where we were taking them and we didn’t believe that [was true].

Right, you’ve been vocal for a long time about not believing that getting together would be the end of the road.
AM: I knew for a fact the storytelling would have gotten tiresome if we kept them apart. It would have gotten artificial. All I can do is be true to the characters. And hopefully people will respond and continue to show up, and continue to invest in this ongoing relationship that isn’t over by any means, and I think if that happens, we have a pretty good shot. I just knew that not getting them together would be a big mistake.

Of course. I know you and I discussed that you knew for a while that you wanted Castle and Beckett to get together at the end of “Always.” Now that they’re together, do you have a place where you want them to end up by the end of the year? Or because everything is so new, are you playing things a little bit more by ear?
AM: A little bit of both, to answer your question honestly. I have an idea of where they can end up at the end of this year, and where they can end up at the end of next year that I feel is very organic, but part of what we’re doing is seeing how the two of them as characters evolve through the first handful of episodes, to see if I have my mileposts in the right place. If I have them in the right place, great. But I’m absolutely open to adjusting where those are, depending on how the characters responding to the material.

That makes sense. Are there any plans for us to meet Castle’s father?
AM: I’m hoping so, but for me, I have to get the right story off the ground. It’s gotta be something that is great. We’ve been talking about it here, and we haven’t come up with a version that as great as I want it to be. So, until that happens, I’m willing to be patient. But I’d like to get that story off the ground this year. I have some ideas, but it’s a matter of executing it the right way, and having the right person available for that, you know?

Do you have someone or a couple of people in mind to play the role?
AM: Yeah, but I don’t want to talk about it right now because I don’t want to get it out in the universe. But I do have a couple people in mind that would be great for the role.

And how are Alexis and Martha going to play into the Castle/Beckett story now that they’re no longer in the dark about the relationship?
AM: I am not sure at this point that Alexis cares that much. She’s going to college, she has other shit on her plate. And she’s seen her dad in other relationships before. So I think…for her, it’s a matter of when she invests, if she invests, or if she pushes against it, what point that comes. And I think that comes at a point it starts to feel a little more real to her than, “Oh, dad’s finally sleeping with that chick he’s been with for a long time.”

Could that perhaps come at a holiday event — say, this year’s Christmas episode — where you’d think Alexis might be used to spending time just with the family?
AM: It might. It just might. It might not. But it might.

Hmm. I know it’s a good bit away, but have you given any thought to the 100th episode yet?
AM: I’m just starting to think about it…it’s going to be coming up before I know it. I’m starting to put some stuff together, but I don’t have anything firm yet.

It’s a pretty great milestone, and it’s often fun to see what they’ll let you do as a writer.
AM: It is. It is, to see what they’ll let you do. I think it’s a little too late for them to let us do the animated version of the show for the 100th episode. I think you have to get the animation in ahead of time. Unless we do it SOUTH PARK-style. [Laughs]

I think it’s about nine months to turn that around…but it can be rushed. So if you really want it, you might be able to squeeze it in if you start pitching ABC right now.
AM: I just have to find a reason to do it.

It’s ABC…there are graphic novels for the show, you could figure it out.
AM: When we figure it out, I’ll let you know.

There’s also a documentary-style episode coming up. What can you tease about that?
AM: That one’s a lot of fun. It’s great to break the fourth wall a little bit and have our characters mug for the camera. It’s great to get a little insight into who the people are once they know there’s an audience out there. I’ll just say Jon Huertas (Esposito) has never been funnier.

I was going to say, I feel like Esposito is going to be the one mugging the most for the camera.
AM: Yeah. It’s pretty fun.

What’s the Esposito and Lanie relationship going to be like this season?
AM: Stay tuned. That’s shorthand for I haven’t figured that out. I don’t want everybody to be in a relationship. You have Ryan with Jenny, and Beckett and Castle together. So that will be an on-again, off-again relationship.

Are there any other crazy episodes you can tease?
AM: We’ll see. I’d like to find our “Blue Butterfly” of this year. It was really refreshing for us to do the documentary episode where we could break from the narrative structure to tell a case story. It was really great for us to do an episode that was more of a “blue skies” show with Castle and Beckett out in the Hamptons. But anything further, it’s still a little early.

Will we be learning more about Gates?
AM: Yeah, we will. We’ll have some fun bites at her. And she’s somebody who was not particularly warm last year, and I think a lot of the audience struggled with her, as we wanted them to; we wanted something for Castle and Beckett to push against. But I think we get to open her up a little bit this year. She doesn’t stop being who she is, but we do get a better sense of her personality and what’s going on in her life.

I will say, I think my favorite Gates scene the show has done so far was her final scene with Beckett in the season premiere. I really enjoyed the nuances of that scene.
AM: It’s a process of opening people up. I feel like I like seeing new characters through the eyes of familiar characters. So when she came in, she was in a no-win situation. She had to establish authority in the precinct, and she was also replacing somebody everybody loved. So Ryan, Esposito, Beckett, they were not going to naturally have a great relationship with her to begin with because she’s an interloper. So the fact that she came from IA was not helpful. So they weren’t really being fair to her, but that’s the way they perceived her.

But over the course of the year and the episode [last season] where the mayor was under suspicion, there was a really nice scene between Gates and Beckett where she talked about the obligations of the job which I thought humanized her, but didn’t let down that iron front. Towards the end of the year, she opened up a little bit more, but she still served that role as that by-the-book person. And there are certain lines you don’t cross. I think we’ve seen her be a little warm towards Beckett and pull Beckett into the fold, and at the end of episode 1, she says, “I hope to earn that respect,” which is that acknowledgment that “I know who I am in your life. I know the position I took. It’d be great if we could get beyond that.” But she’s still going to try and do things by the book.

It was also great in [season 4’s] “Cuffed,” where she was not going to let people at her precinct be in danger. She was going to go out there and fight for them. I like dealing with the complexity. I like dealing with characters that have many different faces that they show the world at different times before you get a complete picture.

On a grander scope, do you know where you want the story to ultimately end up?
AM: Yes. [Laughs]

Have you talked with the actors about whether they’ll be willing to be around for as long as you hope the show will be?
AM: I think every show has a natural lifespan, but I think the ultimate goal for any TV show is to find the moment it’s time and go gracefully away; that allows some closure for the fans and allows some room for fans to fill in the blanks and have fun in their own imaginations. I think that’s the best version of it. We’ll see if fates align and give us a few more years so we can get to that moment of grace.

CASTLE airs Mondays at 10 PM on ABC.


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10 Responses to “CASTLE: Andrew Marlowe on Castle and Beckett Heading to the Hamptons, Episode 100, and More”

  1. eridapo on October 15th, 2012 4:56 pm

    Thanks. Great interview. I don’t know how you do it, but you get these show runners to open up

  2. Mari on October 15th, 2012 6:22 pm

    Please God don’t let them do an open ending. I hate when shows do that. Just like in Smallville where everyone knows that Chloe and Oliver ended up together but they didn’t show them together together in the end. So nowadays the non-chlollie shippers still say they were not canon and that they didn’t end up together… Oh God I so hate open endings.

  3. graybeard on October 16th, 2012 11:50 am

    I hope you find a way for Gates to learn that Castle and Beckett are a pair – – and how she responds and comes up with a way to keep them working together in the Precinct.

    There could be a relatively obscure legal avenue, in that Castle already is there as a civilian and not as a sworn officer. Marriage would really pose a problem, as there obviously are rules concerning married couples working in the same location.

    Marriage could be the “End of the Castle Series” final episode.

  4. graybeard on October 16th, 2012 11:56 am

    Also, it will be interesting to see how they resolve the “living together” issue and how that might affect his Mother and Daughter.

  5. Beckstle on October 18th, 2012 4:30 pm

    Such a great interview! I love how you manage to get showrunners to really talk about their process. Marlowe is an amazing, showrunner, and in interviews like this it really shines through. Just the fact that he’s got finale points not just for this season, but for NEXT season says so much about how he really is about telling the story and not the usual just trying to maintain status quo ratings.

    Even though Castle falls under the heading of procedural dramedy, it’s really more than that. Marlowe’s planning and sense of seeing “where the characters take them” in terms of the timeline highlight this. In a normal procedural not much changes about the characters, and there is not really stories that run through the entire series and weave together the way Castle does. Watching Castle the season’s are really just pauses in a movie. The procedural element is just about the characters day-to-day life: she’s a cop, there are murder cases to solve and he’s the writer who follows her around. Together they have various adventures. That however is only the shell casing for the real story. Murder She wrote was a procedural, Law & Order was. In a true procedural the weekly cases are the primary thing of importance. That’s not true of Castle. It’s completely character driven. It’s the story of Beckett, the story of Castle & the story of Castle & Beckett’s relationship. That is its true focus, not the case of the week.

  6. Soleil_lu on October 18th, 2012 4:44 pm

    Great interview – thanks! Totally agreed with Beckstle’s eloquent commentary & can’t wait to see how the series is going to evolve.

  7. cnangel4ever on October 18th, 2012 5:15 pm

    Great interview! Thanks for bringing the amazing mind of Marlowe to us fans. He is so brilliant in the way he draws you in without revealing to much. This season is so amazing and just when you think it can’t get any better, next week’s episode steals the show. Can’t wait to see what Marlowe and team have in store for us!

  8. TinkonBrink on October 18th, 2012 5:26 pm

    Thank you for the great interview! I love how Andrew Marlowe is always thinking and planning ahead. That he has his (Caskett) milestones set out (but that he wants to get to them the right way. He does not want to rush it.)

    I also appreciate that he wants the quality of the story to be just right. There have been questions about bringing Castle’s dad into the story for some time now. It is refreshing that Marlowe is willing to wait for the perfect story to align with the perfect casting (but Marlowe is a careful, clever and methodical writer and showrunner. Castle reflects the class of the writers, cast and crew.)

    Thanks once again for the interview. I hope to hear more from Andrew Marlowe (or any of the Castle cast/crew/writers) in the future.

  9. Ali, Sr. on October 18th, 2012 7:32 pm

    What is it about CASTLE that has me so engrossed I forgot to take my trash out today? CASKETT…seriously. CASTLE has been an unexpected gift from the universe. Crazy smart & gifted people working together & suddenly you fall hook, line & sinker in love with everything CASTLE. Why the negativity about a couple living happily ever after? We don’t want perfect, just freedom from preconceived ideas. Changing with the times is a good thing – limiting the definition of good is not. Critics rave about MODERN FAMILY & we have an insight into a new lifestyle. Why are we so adamant about a young couple in love? Are we so limited by the Moonlighting Curse that we close our eyes to the possibility of MAGIC? CASTLE IS A GIFT BESTOWED ON ALL OF US BY THE UNIVERSE – THIS ONLY HAPPENS ONCE IN A BLUE MOON…SERIOUSLY. 🙂 🙂 🙂
    Thank you for a great interview Mr. Marlowe.And now could you get yourself cuffed with Terri Edda (left hands please) & give us more magic? We know you can, of course you can, you always do…thank you both. Be safe 🙂

  10. mallory on March 11th, 2013 9:31 pm

    Why is it that when I watch one episode I want to watch the rest